https://wiki.ham.hu/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Vita%3AKonvol%C3%BAci%C3%B3 2026-04-29T17:21:52Z Az oldal laptörténete a wikiben MediaWiki 1.34.1 https://wiki.ham.hu/index.php?title=Vita:Konvol%C3%BAci%C3%B3&diff=8336&oldid=prev 2007-06-18T03:03:13Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="hu"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Régebbi változat</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">A lap 2007. június 18., 03:03-kori változata</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >1. sor:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">1. sor:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Nem működnek </del>a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">képletek!! :-(</del>(</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Zoli! Szerintem ha életszagúak akarunk maradni a példánál, akkor</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">--[[User:HA5CQZ|HA5CQZ]] 2007. május 29.</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">22:19 (CEST)</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"># diszkrét idejű példán keresztül próbáljuk bemutatni </ins>a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">diszkrét konvolúciót </ins>(<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">nem folytonoson)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"># hogy lássa az olvasó, mi is ez a jel</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">ezért például az alábbit javaslom</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Egyszerre javult meg a </del>&#039;&#039;<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">HIGHLIGHTSYNTAX language=&quot;c&quot;&#039;&#039; utasítással</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&lt;br&gt;</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&lt;gnuplot&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">User</del>:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Gg630504|Gg630504</del>]<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">] 2007. június </del>3., <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">00</del>:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">19 </del>(<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">CEST</del>)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set output </ins>&#039;<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">konv_pelda1-temp.png</ins>&#039;</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set multiplot</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set grid</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set size 0.7 0</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">7</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set yrange </ins>[<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-1.2:1.2]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set ytics 1</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set xtics 1</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  plot </ins>[<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">0</ins>:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">20</ins>] <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">sin(x*pi/</ins>3<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">) notitle</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set sample 21</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  set style function points</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">#  set key right 0</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">5</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  u(n</ins>,<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">x) = (x&lt;n ? 0 : (x&gt;=n+1 ? 0 : 1))</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  f(x) = sin(x*pi/3)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  h(x) = -f(x-1)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">  plot [0</ins>:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">20] f</ins>(<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">x</ins>) <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">title &quot;f&quot;, h(x) title &quot;g*f&quot;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&lt;/gnuplot&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Igen</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">tnx </del>[[<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">User:HG2ECZ</del>]]. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Most </del>szerintem a <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">gnuplot nem megy</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Mellesleg szerintem így bemutatni a konvolúciót a példa egyszerűsége ellenére nem lehet érthetően megtenni. Miért? Mert éppen az nem érthető meg belőle, hogy miért jó.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">HA5CQZ</del>|<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">HA5CQZ</del>]] 2007. június <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">14</del>., <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">20</del>:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">40 </del>(CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Hogy miért jó</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">annak megértése egy igen komplex példán kersztül a [[FIR szűrő]] illetve </ins>[[<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">IIR szűrő</ins>]] <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">elrendezéseknél lehet megmutatni, végigszámolva például egy aluláteresztő szűrőt 3-4 frekvencián</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Ha példát szeretnénk írni magára a konvolúcióra, </ins>szerintem <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">csak táblázatos formájú numerikus példa jöhet szóba. Bár lehet, hogy </ins>a <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">fenti példa sem elvetendő, bár mint írtam, inkább egy konkrét szűrőn kellene bemutatni</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">HG2ECZ</ins>|<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">HG2ECZ Zsolt</ins>]] 2007. június <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">18</ins>., <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">05</ins>:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">03 </ins>(CEST)</div></td></tr> </table>

HG2ECZ https://wiki.ham.hu/index.php?title=Vita:Konvol%C3%BAci%C3%B3&diff=8318&oldid=prev 2007-06-14T18:40:51Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="hu"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Régebbi változat</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">A lap 2007. június 14., 18:40-kori változata</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4" >4. sor:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">4. sor:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Egyszerre javult meg a &#039;&#039;HIGHLIGHTSYNTAX language=&quot;c&quot;&#039;&#039; utasítással. &lt;br&gt;</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Egyszerre javult meg a &#039;&#039;HIGHLIGHTSYNTAX language=&quot;c&quot;&#039;&#039; utasítással. &lt;br&gt;</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:Gg630504|Gg630504]] 2007. június 3., 00:19 (CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:Gg630504|Gg630504]] 2007. június 3., 00:19 (CEST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Igen, tnx [[User:HG2ECZ]]. Most szerintem a gnuplot nem megy.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--[[User:HA5CQZ|HA5CQZ]] 2007. június 14., 20:40 (CEST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

HA5CQZ https://wiki.ham.hu/index.php?title=Vita:Konvol%C3%BAci%C3%B3&diff=8308&oldid=prev 2007-06-02T22:19:30Z

<p>függvény, HIGHLIGHTSYNTAX jó.</p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="hu"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Régebbi változat</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">A lap 2007. június 2., 22:19-kori változata</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >1. sor:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">1. sor:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Nem működnek a képletek!! :-((</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Nem működnek a képletek!! :-((</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:HA5CQZ|HA5CQZ]] 2007. május 29., 22:19 (CEST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>--[[User:HA5CQZ|HA5CQZ]] 2007. május 29., 22:19 (CEST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Egyszerre javult meg a &#039;&#039;HIGHLIGHTSYNTAX language=&quot;c&quot;&#039;&#039; utasítással. &lt;br&gt;</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:Gg630504|Gg630504]] 2007. június 3., 00:19 (CEST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Gg630504 https://wiki.ham.hu/index.php?title=Vita:Konvol%C3%BAci%C3%B3&diff=8286&oldid=prev 2007-05-29T20:19:37Z

<p>New page: Nem működnek a képletek!! :-(( --~~~~</p> <p><b>Új lap</b></p><div>Nem működnek a képletek!! :-((<br /> --[[User:HA5CQZ|HA5CQZ]] 2007. május 29., 22:19 (CEST)</div>

HA5CQZ